![]() ![]() Second, God had never before, or ever since, talked to me that clearly in my life-ever. God said, just as clearly as I'm talking to you, "You're going to marry that girl." Now, I immediately doubted it for two or three reasons. I looked over at her right, before I got up to speak. I was doing evangelism-revivals, and crusades. I was actually preaching at her father's church. That man didn't share that same opinion and broke up with me but before that happened, Rick came to my dad's church during the summer, in between our college years. I was dating his best friend and was madly in love with his best friend- sure that he was “Mr. I don't recommend our courtship for anyone. Kay: Oh, where to begin? We had a very strange courtship. We did get counseling in the first two years.īob: I was going to say that stress happened early for you, back in Texas right? Fortunately, in the early years, we got some help. So you better get that one solidified and know where you're going on that. There is too much stress in ministry to have stress in your marriage at the same time. Rick: None of what has happened at Saddleback would have happened if we hadn't worked on our marriage first. Rick: “I'm not going to give you a number!"ĭennis: Well, I want to talk some about your marriage-ĭennis: -because-certainly, being a high-profile author, leader, and as a couple, giving leadership to issues-Kay, championing the cause of HIV-AIDS around the world-we know that ministry takes a toll on a marriage. I was trying to get him to set a goal about the number of orphans that his church would be adopting and he was saying, "I don't know if I want to go there or not!” What size is it?" And Rick said, "Very big." I said, "You have a pretty good-sized church. In fact, at a HIV-AIDS summit that you had at Saddleback, I turned around and kind of jousted with you a little bit about your church. Well, you're a pastor, obviously, of a very large church. Rick: Thank you, we're glad to be back with you guys.ĭennis: You're courageous to come back after some of the tough questions Bob asked you on a previous broadcast.ĭennis: No doubt about it. Kay: Bob, I had no idea you were such a rabble-rouser! ĭennis: Well, that's the voice of Rick and Kay Warren. He put it on his credit card.ĭennis: So, you put it on your credit card? Barbara and I have been through situations where we've needed to get the help of a third party to bring some perspectives to issues that we've been facing.īob: Yes but this guy not only needed marriage counseling, he violated Crown Financial Ministries principles to get his marriage counseling. In fact, you're not talking about me?īob: You have mentioned that on FamilyLife Today.ĭennis: -on FamilyLife Today before. I remember, at first, kind of being taken aback that they were being that candid-that honest-about what was going on in their marriage.Īnd then, I thought, “You know, that’s really good because that’s going to give a lot of people courage and freedom to say, ‘Maybe it is okay to admit that we’ve got issues and we’ve got needs in our marriage.’” You know what I’m talking about.ĭennis: I do. He was talking about the fact that he and his wife needed some help in the early years of their marriage. You know, I remember hearing a prominent Christian leader speaking about his marriage. Thanks for joining us on the Monday edition. Stay tuned.Īnd welcome to FamilyLife Today. Rick and Kay Warren are going to talk about the early years of their marriage today, and they are authentic and transparent-no sugar-coating here. Our host is the President of FamilyLife ®, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. ![]() The fact is, for us, divorce is not an option.”īob: This is FamilyLife Today for Monday, July 22 nd. When people hear your strengths, they go, "Well, good for you." On the other hand, when I get up and say: "You know what? There are times Kay and I have wanted to kill each other, but we're still here together. You don't help people with your strengths. ![]() Rick: If you're going to teach on marriage, you need to use your own marriage as an example and the examples are the examples of imperfection, not perfection. Bob: If you have a heart to help couples, who are struggling in their marriage, Pastor Rick Warren has some counsel for you-be authentic-be transparent. ![]()
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